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Old 09-07-2013, 02:47 PM
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if you go with 3/4 you will need 2 sheets and have to laminate them.. the 1 3/8" is made specifically for transom applications...
Rusty..... I have been talking back and forth with a professional fiberglass guy...... I think that I am going to do a sandwich with 1" Coosa board on each side and 1708 in glassed in the middle.

I had asked him about the 1 3/8" single piece Coosa for the transom and he seemed to favor the two piece construction better than the single one piece.....I am sure there are differening opinions on this, but the two piece method is the way that I think that I am going to be doing mine......plus going with the 1" Coosa over the 3/4" to make it just a bit more beefy.
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:04 PM
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Rusty..... I have been talking back and forth with a professional fiberglass guy...... I think that I am going to do a sandwich with 1" Coosa board on each side and 1708 in glassed in the middle.

I had asked him about the 1 3/8" single piece Coosa for the transom and he seemed to favor the two piece construction better than the single one piece.....I am sure there are differening opinions on this, but the two piece method is the way that I think that I am going to be doing mine......plus going with the 1" Coosa over the 3/4" to make it just a bit more beefy.
sounds good !! I have not decided on which i am going to do... i have to rebuild my transome and i was leaning heavily toward a closed transome and bracket .... if i do go bracket i will be using a hermco fiberglass.. for me the Hermco fiberglass eliminates any of the corrosion issues that come with the aluminum brackets... big descision ... advanced plastics number is 251-986-5100. The card with BG's number is in the truck at the heliport...
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:18 PM
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?????? Is this a member on here or a post??? Can you please expound???

I have been talking back and forth to a guy on TheHullTruth.com screen name Fiberglass1 Inc.
Pretty sure it's the same fella that helped Skip, Carla and I install transom and stringers in their Moesly 21. Nice guy that's been doing professional fg work for about 25 years and definitely knows what he's doing! I'd do whatever he recommends!
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:38 PM
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Pretty sure it's the same fella that helped Skip, Carla and I install transom and stringers in their Moesly 21. Nice guy that's been doing professional fg work for about 25 years and definitely knows what he's doing! I'd do whatever he recommends!
Yea, this guys name is Dan.....been doing professional fiberglass work for many years now....... does mostly larger boats like 85' Horizons and 42' Garlingtons......said he dont really do too much work on smaller boats, but is extrememly knowledgable when it comes to fiberglass work. I have had quite a few questions to him regarding fiberglass and lay-up and he has been explaining in detail the way to do things and why things should be done a certain way. Also believes there is more than one way to skin a cat and doesnt claim that his way is the best by any means, just recmommending what he would do in said scenerio.

Really nice guy!!!
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:39 PM
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sounds good !! I have not decided on which i am going to do... i have to rebuild my transome and i was leaning heavily toward a closed transome and bracket .... if i do go bracket i will be using a hermco fiberglass.. for me the Hermco fiberglass eliminates any of the corrosion issues that come with the aluminum brackets... big descision ... advanced plastics number is 251-986-5100. The card with BG's number is in the truck at the heliport...
Thanks for the number Rusty....I will probably be giving these guys a call in the next week or so......I am taking the next 3 weeks off from work to eat up some vaca time, so I may get to get a good bit done on the boat.
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:41 PM
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Hey Denny,
Yeah, it was me talking with PharmD over on THT. Sounds like he's on the right track, it's all over but the cryin' now!
Had to make a correction though, I started doing this stuff in 1965. So I guess it's more like 48 years instead of 25. You'd think I would've been smart enough to figure out a better way to make a living by now, huh?
BTW, I've had a few SeaVees and Whitewaters in the past. But they were all transom mount singles, or twins, and one inboard. Never a bracket. The one I have now had an Armstrong bracket when I bought it. I thought I'd probably just take it off and mount the engine on the transom where it's supposed to be. But, ya know, after a year I'm starting to like it.
The other singles were 225's and ran about 30 mph @4400. This one is a 250 and runs about 34 @ 4400. And having a back porch aint bad either. The open transom ones were self bailing by about 4 inches and they had wave doors so that wasn't really an issue. But.... as has been discussed before.... when you're forced down to the 3200 to 3600 hundred rpm range in a bad head sea, well, I'll take the transom mount!
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:35 PM
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Hey Dan,

Yea, I thought you had started working about when I did, so I should have known 25 years wasn't right!

Any thoughts on Blue Heron's idea of just extending the hull as part of a transom rebuild instead of making a bracket? He thought converting Sandy's boat to a eurotransom would work better than a bracket since he has to redo that inner bulkhead anyway; I agree and like that idea for a 20 also! Denny
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:31 PM
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I don't know Denny. Lots of things to consider and I have to agree with Carl, why not just extend it....... but then again what's the hours and materials factor going to be? And what's the value once completed? For the amount of work involved why not just find a nice 23 to restore?
One of the most successful extensions we ever did was a 17 Mako. But we extended the bottom, deck and sides rather than the transom. Essentially full height boxes on either side. You could walk all the way around the engine, the boxes added a lot of storage/bait well area and they added tremendously to the low speed performance. The surprise bonus was that the irregular transom shape made a sort of rip-rap effect (like jetty rocks at an inlet) no waves ever made their way into the boat again. Also, it was a pretty easy add-on - we just PVA'd the sides, transom quarters and bottom 2feet forward, laid on some glass, popped off the pieces and glassed 'em back onto the transom. I always wanted to get another 23 SC and do that again.
But as far as Sandy's boat, why not just hang the engine on the transom. It's already so extreme in beam to length ratio I wouldn't want to upset that. Plus euros are so, well, last week!
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:40 PM
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Hey Denny,
Yeah, it was me talking with PharmD over on THT. Sounds like he's on the right track, it's all over but the cryin' now!
Had to make a correction though, I started doing this stuff in 1965. So I guess it's more like 48 years instead of 25. You'd think I would've been smart enough to figure out a better way to make a living by now, huh?
BTW, I've had a few SeaVees and Whitewaters in the past. But they were all transom mount singles, or twins, and one inboard. Never a bracket. The one I have now had an Armstrong bracket when I bought it. I thought I'd probably just take it off and mount the engine on the transom where it's supposed to be. But, ya know, after a year I'm starting to like it.
The other singles were 225's and ran about 30 mph @4400. This one is a 250 and runs about 34 @ 4400. And having a back porch aint bad either. The open transom ones were self bailing by about 4 inches and they had wave doors so that wasn't really an issue. But.... as has been discussed before.... when you're forced down to the 3200 to 3600 hundred rpm range in a bad head sea, well, I'll take the transom mount!
Dan the Man.

As far as extending the hull, lemayinmiami over on that other site had a cool ole 20.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:10 PM
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So what are you thinking now Sandy? Transom mount? Bracket? Nuclear warp drive?
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