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Old 09-25-2010, 01:07 PM
seafari25 seafari25 is offline
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Default 25 Seafari...55mph

Down the highway....that is

Now that I have your attention, I have a few questions for my fellow 25 owners about trailers.

What is the gross vehicle weight of your trailer?
Have you weighed your boat and trailer?
Do you think that a 7000# gross trailer is adequate?

I purchased a 2007 Van Eyl trailer at auction this spring. I figured the 25 weighed about 6000# so I was looking for a trailer with a 7000# gross. There was a late 80's 25' aft cabin cruiser on the trailer when I bought it so I figured it would do but realized it would need some mods to the bunks. Well she snapped one of the 4x4 bunks right off the bat. The guys replaced the 4x4s with 6x6 and beefed up the brackets and it seems fine but I was sceptical about towing it to Nova Scotia if it may be over weight. I had it hauled on a flat bed to relieve some stress(from me and the trailer). I asked him to get a weight by taring off his truck and trailer but the 2 scales he went over didn't have readouts that he could see and he was waived through both times without knowing. For the short distance I have to tow it, it will be fine but I think I still have to do some mods as I believe the trailer is a little tonge heavy.

Here are some shots...please tell me what you think
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Some of the flat bed
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Does it seem tonge heavy in this shot? [image][/image]
I found this in the bilge...dont know what it is but it has been there a long time. Maybe its the original base for my table for two
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Brandon
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Old 09-25-2010, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: 25 Seafari...55mph

i dont have a 25 but i will give you a quick answer
no a 7000 "gross" trailer won't be enought the trailer might be 1500 leaving you 5500 of boat
i have a 7500 gross for my 23 and it's rated for 5200 load
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Old 09-25-2010, 04:35 PM
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My Seafari and my old Seabird weigh very close to the same, hull only about 3000 lb. The Seafari can't be more than a few hundred lbs more than the Seabird, even fully loaded. I put the Seafari on my old aluminum Owens float-on trailer, 7000lb capacity, and it tows perfect, you hardly know its back there. No noticeable difference in the tires or how the two boats towed. I figure boat, trailer, fuel, ice, gear, etc is very close to 7000 lb. Fully loaded for a long trip might be a little bit more. Note: a steel trailer weighs a lot more and leaves less for the boat.

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Old 09-25-2010, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: 25 Seafari...55mph

my 25 is about 52-5300 with every thing except fuel. figure 110 gal of fuel.. that is boat and trailer...
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Old 09-25-2010, 08:52 PM
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Owens aluminum float-on, dual axle, torsion bar suspension, manufacturer says 1500 lb.

With a steel trailer, 7000 lb is probably a little light for the boat.

Can you go to the maker of yours and find out a weight?
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: 25 Seafari...55mph

Wow some mixed thoughts here already...

Thanks gentlemen, for your replies.

Castalot
My appologies...I should have included the rest of my fellow members as well, as I welcome all opinions.
I had my trailer pegged at about 1000#. There's not much to it but I could be way off too if your trailer weighs 2300#. There was another 7000# trailer at the auction that I liked because it had forward bunks and an additional cross member but I figured I would be way over in weight, because of the extra bunks.

Connor
I did the math in my head starting with the dry weight in the specs but also added 500# for any moisture that wood and foam may have absorbed over time. Added the engine and drive weight. I removed everything from the boat, for the trip..anchors, batteries, line, tools, etc and the tank has about 20-25 gals in it, so I didnt really add too much extra for gear. I came to the conclusion of around 5500# but think the boat is heavier...Maybe I have some of those pig weights in mine (No disrespect Ken, I welcome the pig weights. The more in the bow of this boat, the better).

Nuthinfancy
Yours weighs about what I figured... maybe a little less. I like to hear that but I wonder how much of a difference a new transom makes or stringers and whatever other restoration you did. Nothing has been done to ours. It has some foam in it, at the bow, under the forward berth hatch, and some between the transom and liner. It seems pretty dry to me but who knows whats under... Sorry to hear that you are selling yours..there will be a day(at least one), where you will miss her when she's gone.

Thanks again fellas
Brandon
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: 25 Seafari...55mph

Hey Brandon,
That boat of yours looks as nice out of the water as in - well almost...

Who did your tow and can you pm their number to me? I need a rig pulled cross country and not sure the trailer is up to it. That flatbed looks perfect for the task...

Thanks,
Gillie
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:43 PM
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Owens aluminum float-on, dual axle, torsion bar suspension, manufacturer says 1500 lb.

With a steel trailer, 7000 lb is probably a little light for the boat.

Can you go to the maker of yours and find out a weight?
If I'm reading it correctly, their website says..
boat weight- 5600#
Gvw-7000#
They don't show the weight of the trailer but I guess they're saying it's 1400#

I suspect I'm a little heavy with all the gear and a lot heavy with a full tank...
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:46 PM
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Gillie

Absolutely! coming right up.

Brandon
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:31 PM
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Maybe I have some of those pig weights in mine (No disrespect Ken, I welcome the pig weights. The more in the bow of this boat, the better).
Brandon
No problem Brandon, point well taken.
I found those pesky pig weights in the bow of the 27 Seamaster! ...
I'm going to hold on to them until the boat is done
(By the year 2020 at the rate I'm going [img]/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].)
just in case.
The original 2 tanks in the 27 held a total of 115 gallons.
My plans are to carry 200 gallons of fuel and 50 gallons of
water which will change the center of gravity.

See ya, Ken
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