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Old 03-16-2009, 11:58 PM
fishaholic fishaholic is offline
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Just got my new motor (Yamy F150) and mounted it on my newly redone 1974 20ft classic. Lookin for info on the right prop? At full throtle only gettin 5500 rpm and doin 35mph with to guys and a lite boat. Any body runnin a four stroke 150 or similar on a twenty foot seacraft? I am not a speed demon but I thought I maght be able to slide along at 3500-4000rpm atnear 30 mph but only doin 20 at 3500 and 25mph at 4000rpm. Thanks
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Old 03-17-2009, 08:43 AM
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What's the operating range (rpm) of the engine? How high/low is it mounted? What pitch/dia./material are you running now??
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:50 PM
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I have a 1975 20 CC, with a 115 Evinrude and I get 37 MPH (GPS) at 5000 RPM. I am raising my motor 1" to get in the 5500 range ( hopefully) I am running a 13.25 X17P prop. I would think with a 150 you should be well over 40 MPH at 5500 unless you are propped way too low. Your hole shot is probably incredible !!
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:21 PM
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What size wheel are you spinning? I have a 200 yami with a 19" and I'm getting 48 mph, fully loaded 46 gals fuel and two people, don't have the engine to full rpm's yet, althought many people before us say getting to the 50 and over mark is an act of g--, or more money and different lower units. I would think you should be spinning a 19" wheel, Fr Frank, your thoughts?
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:32 PM
McGillicuddy McGillicuddy is offline
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Default Re: PLEASE HELP

Just a few things I've learned in my prop search:

1. 4 strokes are heavy - yours is about 170 lbs more than what these transoms relative to the center of gravity were designed for. Keep in mind its also a narrow hull only a 7'6" beam. = Less buoyancy, eh?

2. It seems to me that the most overlooked aspect of correct propping is the shape/geometry of the prop and what it is designed to do. Determine the diameter an pitch of your prop and the name or model number. The latter will tell you what it is designed to do.

3. Check the height of the cavitation plate relative to the keel at neutral trim. Ideal setting seems to be anti-cavitation plate 1/2" to 1-1/2" above the keel. Keel and plate should be parallel when measuring. If the plate is below the keel, that is definitely slowing you down.

4. Not sure what rpms are ideal for your f150 but you're probably close at 5500 so I doubt that's your gremlin. More likely its the attitude of how your boat runs. I'm guessing you probably run bow high and your aft hull is plowing water.

With the extra weight on the transom you almost certainly need a prop with stern-lifting qualities. That's the buzzword for SeaCrafts. If you have trim tabs make sure they're working for you not creating additional drag. If you don't have them, they would help you immensely w/ that 4-stroke. You might also want to consider a foil like a Stingray, Doel-fin or whatever. But your get the same effect with a stout sternlifting 3 blade or probably better in your case a 4 blade prop.

Find out exactly what your prop is first, and share that info. Someone on the site probably has experience with it or knows enough to steer you in the right direction.

Also if you have a baitwell behind your leaning post you might consider moving it toward the pointy end. Same with your batteries if their are situated aft.

One more thing. How did you determine your speed? and if by GPS, make sure settings are reading out mph not knots. If you're reading out knots then your speed is very good.

Good luck.
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:13 AM
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Since you need about 500 RPM here is a rule of thumb - dropping 2" in pitch should get you 400 and make sure the engine is high enough, you may be dragging extra LU in the water, rasing it will 100 to 200.
I am not familiar with 4 blade props but maybe someone else does, that may be an option as well.
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:12 AM
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My nephew has a '76 20 that has been completely redone. 2 stroke Yamaha 150 and he hits around 45 depending on passengers and fuel load , with no trim tabs.
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:25 PM
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I think you need to go to a PowerTech 4 blade stern lifting prop and also raise the motor a notch or 2. I would want the cavitation plate about and an inch or 1 1/2 inche above the "V" on the stern. With the sharp "V", it kind of rules out rule of being even with the cavitation plate. I had a similiar problem with my 23WA and w/FrFrank's advice made the switch and it made all the difference in the world. I have a Merc 4 blade sitting on the shelf for a right hand twist w/Honda hub kit, but Mercury says it is a bow lifiting prop, so that would not be the answer, just the opposite effect. I went from a 14X17 3 blade to a 15 1/4 X 16, 4 blade. check at www.ptprop.com
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:47 PM
Bigshrimpin Bigshrimpin is offline
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I would guess that the motor was mounted too low. It makes a HUGE difference. Once you have the right height . . . you can start messing with props.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:12 PM
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I would guess that the motor was mounted too low. It makes a HUGE difference. Once you have the right height . . . you can start messing with props.
Thats what I was thinking, somethings kinda wrong
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