Scupper Help

[SeaPlusPlus]

Here it is. Fellow-ship was the one who came up with it.

[Jacquestrappe]

I did see that in my search but wasn't sure it would work with horizontal scuppers. Having a tough time visualizing it but willing to try if it would work with my set up.

[Bushwacker]

I'd go with the ping pong ball type check valves, as I think they are less susceptible from defeat from debris. I've heard stories of the duckbill type leaking because trapped debris kept them from sealing completely. However if you're leaving the boat in the water, you aren't too far from a "mode shift" from self-bailing to self-sinking! I'd look at moving batteries, etc. to get some weight forward to get a little more self bailing margin!

I use the "vortex" type check valves, and I believe they work best in the vertical scuppers because it depends on the water pressure in the tube to collapse the glove finger. I use them when diving or fishing when I'm gonna have water on the deck anyway, because they allow it to drain off automatically. (Note: haven't tried the condom option, but I make them using Nitril gloves instead of vinyl or latex, as that material seems to be more durable!) However they don't seal perfectly. My waterline is about like yours, and if you're sitting or standing in the back of the boat, water will slowly seep in. When I'm cruising and want a dry deck, I use the rubber plugs and would use those and depend on bilge pump and a good battery if I left boat in water for a long period of time.

By the way, how do you like that E-Tec?

[Jacquestrappe]

If I am understanding its design correctly, the ping-pong ball solution is meant for scuppers that exit the transom. Unfortunately, my scuppers are on the starboard and port sides near the stern. Doesn't seem like I could use that style given that they stick out several inches and would distrup the flow of water fairly dramatically.

I'm figuring out slowly that my only real option here (short of a major deck change or running the scuppers out the transom) is to add the flap style scuppers, adjust some of the weight within the console etc and potentially use plugs when we are fishing in the stern.

I do have a 60 gallon reserve tank positioned in front of the console that is empty right now. I may fill that to adjust weight and see how that affects the scuppers/waterline. I'll report back.

Thanks for everyone's help and input.
RC

PS: My first day on the water with the new engine was yesterday. Wind was honking and the waves were up so I didn't get a true test of the engine. That said, for the short time I was out, it was great.

[Old'sCool]

I'm pretty sure the old SeeVee's or Whitewater's had that out the sides. Search Hull Truth for those.

[Blackfin26]

Check out rwbmarine.com.au. They're out of Australia but make an aluminum scupper that you can open and close from the inside with a heavy duty spring. Amazing product made for military vessels. They can direct you to a Newport, RI company that imports their stuff. I have them on the hiliner 222 that I restored. 100% waterproof/bulletproof.

[Jacquestrappe]

Blackfin,

Thanks for the lead. I have been in contact with the actual company in Australia...and they did put me in touch with the RI company (Naid Inflatables). I still have yet to connect with the gentleman there but hopefully he can point me in the right direction. (The gentleman from RWB sent me a page from their catalog but nothing on the page seems to match what you described.)

One question....when you say that the aluminum scuppers have a heavy duty spring...are they manually operable to shut off/on?

Thanks again for your help. Much appreciated.

RC

[Blackfin26]

RC...not actually a spring more like heavy gauge wire that springs out when you push the scupper door. It then forcefully collapses when pulled shut. 100% waterproof and military spec. Send me your email and send you a few pics.
Niad is the company I dealt with...forget the sales guys name. Very nice people. They simply added my order to one of there's. Steve

[Jacquestrappe]

Blackfin,

PM sent. Thanks!
RC

[floorboy]

here is a link to what I have on both my boats they work great.
http://www.seachoice.com/productdeta...tail-38619.asp

That is what I put on my boat this year.......took it out for a shakedown run last weekend and had water shooting up a foot high out of the floor of my boat. I think my outlets are a little close to the side of the hull.The water comes around the corner while running, and the scuppers catch the water and pump it onto the deck.... I will try turning them a quarter turn next weekend and see how that works. On the bright side the water ran out FAST after I stopped.