BORED Straight Flush !

[TUGBOAT]

Hmmm, strange looking,Mixture of 3 diff.Lures. I'll try & come up with something.I'll look thru My ol file,Had a lure that had a flared skirt ,Caught a Wahoo ,won 1st place in a tourny & NEVER made another ! [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
I was thinking this would work,When I found out what a dredge / Blinker was .

bottom view

side view "Platypus"
Would this woik ?
What is their natural bait/food?Surface ,Movement,straight runner,smooth,smoker?
Thanks for the Help,
Get sumpt'n going !
"TUG" [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

[ November 07, 2003, 03:48 PM: Message edited by: Capt. Brad ]

[Miles Offshore]

Hmmm, maybe but I dont think so Brad, they feed primarily on large menhaden, eels etc, The prefered method of trolling here is as slow as she goes, maybe 2.5 knots the ideal speed. Early in the season , now till x-mas you will mostly find the larger fish down deep(mostly because of the large numbers of boats persuing them keeping them down).When you find them on top later in the season-January to about the middle of Feb depending on water temperature, they will be in the upper part of the water column. Funny thing about it , you are subject to catching a flounder or a 200 lb bluefin 1/2 mile off the beach!!(up too 3 miles out is the current max federal eez limit) Large swimming plugs as well as bucktails (bugeye 3/8 oz with strip of porkrind also work well) A lot of people love the Manns "stretch" series, 25's and 30's. I wont pull them, they are dangerous(fly at you when they pop out of the water) and they love to tangle the rest of your lines while deployed.I havnt seen any of the style lures you show being used although I have given thought to pulling a green machine and/or a nekkid balyhoo just for $hits and giggles to see if they will work.

[ November 07, 2003, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: Miles Offshore ]

[TUGBOAT]

Colors ?? Shiny,Solid ,?This Platypus can be pulled slow ? 2.5 ? That maybe to slow,Our boats Drift faster than that.Mybe the angle on the head gives it action at slower speed.The inner tube is also at a angle.When I came out with this lure I cut the angle both ways up/down(which shows in the photo) The upper cut came out the winner.Dives from side to side then will surface & run like a "BIRD" then Dive again.The under cut did just the opposite. Keep My brain work'n for a lil bit here.I can make the "TAIL" longer & use Mylar for a inner skirt.

[Miles Offshore]

Green /chartuese, with eyes and silver and or gold mylar. If it swims side to side then it should work. What would it weigh and will it work/swim when I put in on the bottom???

[ScottM]

Miles,
We've had great success with the Mann's Stretch 25 (dorado color), but you're right, heads up when pulling them out of the water whle underway! You definitely can't troll them with anything else in the spread. The bunker spoon is starting to catch on up this way over the past 2 seasons. Guys do really well with them way down inside Cape Cod Bay over the large shoals. Single Rapala Magnums work well, as do 9'er rigs (local version of a drail/umbrella rig). Those Mann's Sea Snakes work well also, but if bluefish are around, forget it, they'll shred those tails in an instant. At least you can replace the tails though.

[TUGBOAT]

Miles Offshore,

from 16 to 40 oz's depending on the water depth

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What do Ya raise these with ?????? is that 16 to 40 oz's or 1.6 - 4.0 oz ? [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

[Miles Offshore]

What do Ya raise these with ?????? is that 16 to 40 oz's or 1.6 - 4.0 oz ?

You were seeing right Captain Brad, 16 to 40 OZ's. Now tell me who pours a 1.6 oz lead [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Bigger rockfish tend to stay under and around the outer fringes of the rest of the school, the water we fish can go from 10 ft right on the beach to 100 ft very quickly with a 5 knot current so you need heavy to keep it on the bottom. This is of course to get the main bait down as well. It is heavy but I normally use 15/30 lb stand up rods and TLD 20's. A lot of folks like the penn gti's but I think shimano has it all over them. Anyways when you catch em 2 at a time and each fish is 20 lbs or better you need something with a little ummmph.LOL, Oh BTW the new state record bluefin has been broken twice this week. Dr. Jim (of the fishing show fame) had on earlier in the week around 395 or so. Someone else had on yesterday around 400. (5 and a half hours in the chair) not me, dont want any parts of them. Have been hearing reports that commercial boys from wherever having fish over 400 lbs dressed out.Anyways , the other rockfish lure that has really taken off around here lately are the storm wildeyes, and the 'Tomic plugs- Scott- you guys pulling them up north???

[ScottM]

Craig,
We're using the Wild Eyes with great success but I'm not familiar with the Tomic. What's that all about?

[Miles Offshore]

Hey Scott, heres a pic of a Tomic, troll them deep and shallow as well, heres a link to their website

http://www.tomiclures.com/
there are several styles but the classic is the one used around here. Really like the single hook as well.

[ November 12, 2003, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: Miles Offshore ]

[ScottM]

Craig,
I'll have to look for them around here and give them a try next season. They look nice, and with that design they must wiggle like a bastard! The single is hook is really nice, especially if you get into bluefish, makes them easy to get off the hook.