New lighter Yammie 4-strokes

[muddywater]

In one of his posts, Snookerd pointed out the new lighter Vmax Yamaha 4-strokes.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard/vmax_micro/
I saw a Yamaha web site with the Offshore versions a couple weeks ago but either it was pulled, or I just can't find it again. It looks like they dropped the weight significantly on the 250 and 300 so that they are now lighter than some of the DFI 2-strokes which is great for 23SC owners. If Yamaha accomplished the same in their F150 or a 200, it sure would open up new options for 20' Seacraft owners and others repowering older boats. I am curious to know what you guys think about the plasma fused cylinders vs steel cylinders. That does not sound like something that could be rebuilt, but then I guess 4-strokes are too expensive to rebuild anyway??

[pl99]

The 250yammySho is quiet at idle. Not as quiet as a Honda. <Comparable> neighbor has two.... I know my old merc 250 that i had on the back of my twenty Burned wot 10 to 14 gal and Hr. <two Stroke> I do not know what vmax burns... Is quiet in Idle though.... I like the Powerhead but not the look...

[bridgeman]

The way I read its only available with a 20" shaft. 505 lbs. is pretty light for a 4 stroker though.

[muddywater]

DeathfromAbove - Your neighbor has some? Is he a reviewer or a Yammie employee? Are you sure we're talking about the same motors? They just started producing these and the new SHO 20" Vmax versions weren't even supposed to hit the market until the end of December. The offshore versions are not out yet and it looks like they pulled the web page for the offshore version. There was some discussion on THT, and Yamaha made one of the vendor's (SIM) remove his post about them as well.

Bridgeman - Unless I just dreamed it up, the site I saw had 25" and 30" offshore versions, but yeah... the current site they have up now only shows the 20 Vmax version.

[pl99]

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[pl99]

I so solly say Hopsing.. Hopsing go check dis mornig.. Steve say put clothes on hopsing and they r just vmaxxx.. So Solly.. They Nice vmaxx though......

[Snookerd]

Muddywater- I did a google search on these new 4.2 L motors and a new 70HP that weighs 260lbs! The stat sheet from the offshore version was in fact on the web 2 days ago. The weights: 505 for the 250 VMAX and the new Offshore 25/30 inch 4.2 V-6 300 / 250 / 225 / 200? weighs around 555 lbs. which is still amazing. Besides the cylinder walls and other great weight reductions, the Muffler IS NOT on the VMAX, but is on the Offshore motors. The muffler comes in at 26 Lbs.. I was just in Chattanooga last week, but was not there spying! They had a big event in November at their Alabama lake test site.

Back to the 150 - 175 4 stroke weight scenario................If the 70 hp is 100 lbs lighter than their existing 75 hp 4 stroke, then it looks good that a 400lb 150 could be coming, which is earthshattering news for our SC's weight concerns. Another final note on the Yamaha info sheet........the current 250 with the 3.3L? block will get retro-fit for seastar / traditional cable controls for the repower market. The SUZ DF300 may have some competition now........The release date is Spring 2010.

Darn, I was really hoping to get that 800 + lb.V-8 YAMI 300 on the back of my 23 [img]/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[KenB]

Does anyone know what block the new 250 is based on? I know yammy uses toyota engines (i.e. big 300/350 is marinized lexus V8 block) so I assume this one must be too.